"Failure is just another name for success" – Ma Anand SheelaWelcome to episode 100 of 1% Better. Thank you for checking it out.My guest this week is Ma Anand Sheela. Sheela came to prominence recently from the Netflix documentary Wild Wild Country. That's when I learned about her. However many of you listening might have first heard of her back in the early 1980s when she was the secretary of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, latterly known as Osho.The documentary blew my mind and I was struck by Sheela's personality, devotion for Bhagwan, and then her own seemingly unending quest for power. When I watched the show, I thought how cool it would be to talk with her for the podcast. To learn more about her values, upbringing, what drove her motivations, and of course what life is like for her since the commune broke up and after her time in prison. When I managed to connect with her, tell her about the podcast, and invite her to be a guest, I was delighted when she agreed.So many of the values and coping mechanisms were instilled into Sheela from a very young age! I wanted to talk to her about not just the Commune but life before and after that. She was very willing to share her story. I hope you enjoy. Here are the main topics discussed:
Dreams and aspirations growing up
Never planning to be a leader
Youngest of the 6 children
Her Father – Self-made scholar working with Gandi
The importance of spirituality and religions growing up
Values of freedom and being in nature were key
Moving to the USA to study
Choosing to work with ceramics
Embracing the Culture on the East Coast – finding the freedom again
Being guided by a feeling and having common sense
Having a clear sense of who she was always!
Never wanting to disappoint her parents
Never having a real affinity with Meditation but just having a clear sense of herself
Being left speechless after the first meeting with Bhagwan at a public discourse
Participating in an experiment of communal lifestyle in 1973
The initial commune experiment - 6 peoples living in an apartment for 3 months with no boundaries
The Objective & Tasks from the Experiment
Sheela's Feelings and Learnings from the Experiment
Becoming the Secretary – Was this a Business?
Life being very spontaneous with Bhagwan
Projects were more Agile – not well planned
Identifying and Creating Business Opportunities without a plan
Starting to function as a bank!
Setting up a restaurant and a coffee shop
All new ideas run past Bhagwan
Traits - Calm, Composure, Dealing with Conflict
Having a practical mind, like her mother
Every day was an emergency with Bhagwan
Being an extension of his arms in the role of Secretary
Tools to keep emotions in check – How did Sheela keep these in check!
Guided Through Bhagwan – he would ensure she was able to say and do what she had to do!
Never feeling fearful so never having to deal with this – her parents were never seen in fear!
Creating the commune but never having a ‘horizon goal'
Was moving from India to the US the right decision?
Every Choice made was the right choice!
Significant Learnings from time in Prison
Patience & now being the biggest asset of her work!
The Value of Time!
Better at dealing with Stress!
Handling Pressure
Key Leadership Traits
Be clear in yourself & what you want to do!
Remain Open
Respect the Team 100%
Accept Mistakes
Take Accountability
Be Honest and teach the team to be similar
Don't be shy of failure!
Introspection
Ruthlessly honest with yourself!
The documentary ‘Wild Wild Country' – A perspective on the work
Advice that sticks out form the years
Accept life for what it is! Don't be burdened by life!
Don't become judgemental
Don't be cynical
Learn from History not to create or repeat ugly events in life!